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Greetings again Peter Koenig, Wonderful interview with Jeff. Its been many years since we corresponded, I believe through Global Research. I believe the mathematics of what you call human spirit are really the ancient 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') CULTURAL 'FRACTAL' ('Fraction, Multiplier, Building-block, where-the-part-contains-the-whole'). The difficulty of communicating indigenous holistic 3-Dimensional math concepts has been the reduction of naturally 3-D human mind through 2-D linear 'exogenous' (L. 'other-generated') violent colonial command & control in the fake religious, education, media, company etc institutions we are indoctrinated in. Violence & other-control breeds ignorance.

FROM 3 TO 2-D MIND This perverted system of Oligarch fake perverted 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') for world control has festered on earth over the past 7000 years since Babylon in failed destroyed empire after empire now calculated at one billion indigenous people killed & genocided.

The Oligarch centre of money issue moved west each time, killing & genociding successful sustainable abundant 1st Nation 'indigenous' (L 'self-generating') peoples.

WHEN THERE REALLY WAS A BOTTOM-UP INDIGENOUS REAL MONEY SYSTEM & WORLD BANK for MANY 10s of 1000s of YEARS

All indigenous ~100 (50-150) person Multihome-Dwelling-Complexes (eg. Longhouse-apartment, Pueblo-townhouse & Kanata-village), communities nations, Confederacies & Continental Councils employed String-shell time-based equivalency bottom-up accounting Value system (eg. Wampum on Turtle-Island / N. America, Quipu in S. America, Cowrie in indigenous Celtic / Slavic Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia & all islands) for all collective Domestic, Industrial & Commercial contributions. 70% of people live today in loving, intimate, intergenerational, female-male, critical-mass, economies-of-scale with PRIVACY for individual sovereignty & PROXIMITY for collaboration guaranteed by free-choice & full Merit-based record keeping for all contributions. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy/1-extending-our-welcome-participatory-multihome-cohousing

RELATIONAL ECONOMY. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy

IN REFLECTION: Linear Oligarch 'exogenous' (L. 'other-generated') 2-D mined extracted exploited metal-coin fake money, was imposed as an Oligarch colonial control measure usurping the once worldwide 3-D String-shell system with real loving, intimate, intergenerational, female-male, interdisciplinary, critical-mass, economies-of-scale memory, empowerment & collaboration. String-shell integrates Capital, Currency, Condolence, mentored Apprentice educational Credit, time-math Communication, professional Costume & other human values into one interdisciplinary accounting cycle.

3-D BIOSPHERE MIRROR LOSSES INTO 2-D: Once abundant 3-D hugely abundant Polyculture Orchard indigenous lands with flowing rivers, lakes & millions of streams are reduced through exploitive monocrop linear 2-D 'agriculture' (L 'ager' = 'field') into desert. 2-D economic practice produces 2-D desert-scapes.

As Oligarch failing empires spread, hungry for the hardwood Oak for weapons of war, forts, arms, ships etc., Polyculture was cut down.

3-D POLYCULTURE ORCHARDS All humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' ancestors, aligned with:

a) Polyculture's 92-98% Photosynthesis compared with 2-D 'agriculture' (L 'ager' = 'field') 2-8% photosynthesis. Agriculture’s all settlers & 1st Nations had left to 'farm' (French 'ferme' = 'contract of servitude by the peasant imposed by the armed aristocrat').

b) Deep Polyculture roots descending many 10s of metres into the substrate mining minerals, pumping water, developing extensive nutrient colonies etc. being 100 times = 10,000% more productivity than agriculture. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/b-ecological-design/1-indigenous-welcome-orchard-food-production-efficiencies

Few are aware that the core BOTTOM-UP ECONOMIC ENGINE of India's 'Swaraj' (Hindi 'Self-rule') exemplified by Mohandas Gandhi's work from 1917 to 1949 was 'Swadeshi' (H. 'indigenous' aka 'self-sufficiency'). Mohandas Gandhi being a British trained lawyer was more of an 'activist' in South Africa for 2 decades till his return to India in 1915. Gandhi inspired by Swadeshi by 1917 understood India must self-generate its ancient self-sufficiency of: a) Vegetarian food, ~100 person Ashram Multihome, Khadhi clothing, Ayurvedic Medicine, Salt-from the Sea & more. Gandhi & the Swadeshi movement knew they would not gain Swaraj in British fake: law courts, parliaments, by war, economy etc. As India organized in distributed economy (Greek 'oikos' = 'home' + 'namein' = 'care-&-nurture'), then India peoples gained well being. Gandhi advised a British Governor, "Regard human labour as more even than money & you have an untapped & inexhaustible source of income, which every increases with use." Indigenous time-based Participatory Accounting provides a universal human Common Denominator to measure & empower all stakeholder contributions. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy/2-participatory-accounting

ECONOMIC LEVERAGE; The Top-Down 5 Eye British, US, Canada, Australia & New-Zealand empire was & is still so inefficient, back then with 15,000 kilometre shipping of raw-materials & finished goods each way, long inflexible 5 year planning cycles, top-down disconnected administrations that by the time India's production & consumption had fallen by only 5%, then many 100s of 5-Eye extractive & exploitive companies, went bankrupt & the empire had no choice.

BODY ECONOMIC-MEMORY MODELLING AUTONOMOUS LOCAL SOVEREIGNTY FOR HUMAN SOCIETY. Humanity's present 'exogenous' social, economic & political system is best transformed as all humanity's indigenous ancestors & India with Gandhi achieved. The 'indigenous' system is a reflection of the human & all life's body: gene, cell, tissue & organ fractal Autonomy. Each specialized part & function has expert memory retention, decision-making & implementation functions. The brain is only one of several Nexus-of-communication for facts & actions, mostly after they have already happened. We know for example now how the digestive system contains many times more memory & implementation neurons than the brain. Distributed 'ECONOMIC' (Greek 'oikos' = 'home' + 'namein' = 'care-&-nurture') MEMORY is core to the holistic function of the body. This is the Neural Science of today. Rebuilding a functioning human society is not going to be successful bit-by-bit as is the tendency of system's designers today, but only through reflection upon our once worldwide functioning indigenous systems. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/3-economic-memory

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Thanks. Western elites are infested with Satanic pedophiles.

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